The 4P’s Podcast With Trunnis Goggins II

What happens when you're trying to do everything in your business—and it's slowly burning you out?
This week on The 4Ps Podcast, Trunnis Goggins II brings together two powerful conversations from two very different perspectives: Jason Rosado, a business breakthrough coach from Chicago, and Jo Jackson, author of Reclaim the Fire.
Jason works with small, service-based business owners who want to grow but find themselves overwhelmed by the demands of running everything themselves. In this conversation, he explains why entrepreneurs often become their own biggest bottleneck—and how learning to focus on what truly energizes you can change the way you work and lead.
Jason introduces his practical “Cake and Cringe” exercise: identify the things you absolutely love doing, separate them from the tasks you dislike, and begin building a role around the work that gives you energy and produces meaningful results.
Then Trunnis welcomes Jo Jackson back to the podcast to discuss her book, Reclaim the Fire. Jo introduces the five principles of her Wolf Protocol—code, courage, contribution, conviction, and congruency—and explains why living consistently with who you say you are is so important.
Jo also discusses the history and circumstances she believes have contributed to changing expectations around men, relationships, family, and personal responsibility—and why Reclaim the Fire is intended not simply as a book for men, but as a resource for both men and women.
🔥 In This Episode:
💼 Why small-business owners become overwhelmed
🧠 The connection between energy, focus, and productivity
🏈 Jason's surprising decision to step away from watching the Chicago Bears
👨‍👩‍👦 Choosing time with family over distractions
🙏 Giving yourself permission to change your mind
🚀 How entrepreneurs can stop trying to do everything
🍰 Jason's “Cake and Cringe” exercise
🎯 Finding the work that energizes you
🤖 When delegation—or AI—can help free up your time
📈 Applying the 80/20 principle to your business
🔥 Jo Jackson's Reclaim the Fire
🐺 The five principles of the Wolf Protocol
🛡️ Code, courage, contribution, conviction, and congruency
❤️ Understanding yourself and becoming the person you want to be
👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Relationships, family, responsibility, and personal growth
📚 Why Reclaim the Fire is intended for both men and women
🎙️ A preview of the upcoming No Filter podcast with Kate Lovett
Whether you're an entrepreneur trying to get your business under control or someone looking for greater purpose, personal responsibility, and direction, this episode delivers plenty to think about.
📚Connect with Jason - https://distinctivecoaching.com/📚Connect with Jo - https://linktr.ee/jo_jackson
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What happens when you lose a business, start over during a global pandemic, sell thousands of donuts, and still choose to keep moving forward?
Welcome to another episode of The 4Ps Podcast, hosted by Trunnis Goggins II, featuring entrepreneur Vincent Van den Broeck, owner of Hashtag in Brussels, Belgium, a restaurant known for its waffle burgers and all-day brunch.
At just 34 years old, Vincent has already experienced multiple chapters of entrepreneurship. From opening his first restaurant in 2018 to launching Hashtag in 2019, navigating the challenges of COVID-19, and creating a home-based donut business that sold thousands of donuts per day, Vincent's journey is filled with risk, reinvention, hard work, and determination.
During this inspiring conversation, Vincent shares why he believes entrepreneurship was the logical next step for him, how losing his job forced him to accelerate his plans, and why he eventually made the difficult decision to close several ventures and focus on Hashtag.
But this conversation goes far beyond restaurants and business.
Vincent challenges listeners to ask themselves a powerful question:
“What do you truly love to do?”
He discusses the importance of removing the words “yeah, but” from our vocabulary, following our own happiness instead of living according to other people's expectations, and developing the conviction to pursue our goals—even when the outcome cannot be guaranteed.
Trunnis and Vincent also explore risk, mindset, discipline, recovery, and the belief that consistent effort can create meaningful results over time.
🔥 In This Episode:
🇧🇪 Meet Vincent Van den Broeck, entrepreneur and owner of Hashtag in Brussels
🍔 The story behind Hashtag's signature waffle burgers
🏪 Opening restaurants at a young age
🦠 Navigating the challenges of COVID-19
🍩 Selling thousands of donuts during lockdown
🔄 Why Vincent decided to take several steps back to move forward
💡 The importance of curiosity, numbers, and building
🚀 Taking the leap into entrepreneurship after losing a job
❤️ Discovering what you truly love to do
🚫 Removing “yeah, but” from your vocabulary
🧠 Developing belief and conviction
🎯 Risk-taking, consistency, and personal responsibility
💪 The relationship between hard work and results
🏋️ Why recovery is just as important as effort
✍️ Trunnis discusses the Buffalo Voices young writers workshop
📚 Veritas Publishing House and opportunities for emerging authors
🎙️ The upcoming No Filter podcast with Kate Lovett
From waffle burgers to big dreams, Vincent's story is a reminder that entrepreneurship requires courage, commitment, flexibility, and a willingness to keep showing up.
Learn more... https://hashtagbrussels.com/ 
Pre-order the book Everything Feels Impossible Until It’s Done:
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📌 Watch for upcoming episodes of The 4Ps Podcast and the launch of No Filter on October 16, 2026.

What happens when a life without passion or purpose encounters something that changes everything?
In Part 2 of this powerful conversation, Trunnis Goggins II continues his conversation with Jonnathan Truong, exploring faith, forgiveness, transformation, ministry, and the power of the Gospel to bring people together across cultural and racial boundaries.
Trunnis also opens up about his own personal faith journey, including growing up surrounded by both Catholic and Protestant influences and how the devastating loss of his daughter challenged him to revisit what he believed.
He speaks honestly about the difficult journey of forgiveness and the struggle to forgive the person responsible for her death. The conversation also examines the difference between authentic ministry and religious leadership driven by personal wealth and recognition.
Jonnathan then continues his extraordinary testimony, sharing how he went from a life marked by depression, suicidal thoughts, violent impulses, and a lack of passion or purpose to discovering a new direction through his encounter with God.
A seemingly ordinary encounter in a computer lab introduced him to Scripture, followed by a phone call from Sister Jones that helped confirm the decision he was making about his faith.
Today, Jonnathan pastors God Manifest Church in Houston, Texas, a diverse congregation where people from different racial and cultural backgrounds come together around the message of salvation through grace.
🙏 In This Episode:
✝️ Trunnis shares his multi-denominational faith upbringing
💔 The loss of Trunnis' daughter and its impact on his faith
🕊️ Wrestling with forgiveness after tragedy
⚠️ The importance of authentic spiritual leadership
🔥 Jonnathan's journey from emptiness to divine purpose
🧠 Depression, suicidal thoughts, anger, and violent impulses
💻 The unexpected computer-lab encounter that introduced Jonnathan to Scripture
📖 How Scripture began changing his perspective
☎️ The phone call that confirmed Jonnathan's decision
⛪ The story behind God Manifest Church - https://godmanifest.com/ 
🌎 A diverse congregation united by the Gospel
🙌 Salvation through grace rather than religious works
❤️ Faith that reaches beyond racial and cultural differences
🎙️ Upcoming guests and new 4Ps programming
This conversation goes beyond religion—it explores what happens when purpose, faith, forgiveness, and transformation intersect.
Watch Part 1 first, then join us for Part 2 of Jonnathan Truong's incredible journey.
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What happens when everything you were taught about spirituality begins to fall apart—and you finally cry out to God for an answer?
In this powerful episode of The 4Ps Podcast, Trunnis Goggins II sits down with Jonnathan Truong, a pastor whose extraordinary journey took him from a deeply devout Buddhist upbringing and intense spiritual training to addiction, trauma, despair, and ultimately a life-changing encounter with the God of the Bible.
Jonnathan's childhood was anything but ordinary. Raised in an extremely devout Buddhist family, he was believed by some to be the reincarnation of a prominent Tibetan Lama. As a child, he was exposed to spiritual practices including astral projection and mind reading.
But behind what others saw as spiritual potential was a young man struggling with anger, the effects of childhood sexual abuse, pornography addiction, alcoholism, and drug use.
By college, Jonnathan found himself facing overwhelming financial and family pressures. With his family deeply in debt and his own future uncertain, he reached a point of profound hopelessness.
Then he prayed.
For the first time, Jonnathan cried out to God—and what happened next would change the direction of his life.
Two women arrived at his home with a message they believed God had given them, leading Jonnathan to begin questioning everything he had previously believed about God, faith, and his purpose.
This is a story of faith, trauma, addiction, unanswered questions, divine encounters, and transformation.
🙏 In This Episode:
🧘 Jonnathan's upbringing in a deeply devout Buddhist family
👁️ His childhood experiences with spiritual training
🐐 A vivid childhood dream that left a lasting impression
🔥 Why some Buddhist temples believed he was a reincarnated Lama
💔 The impact of childhood trauma and sexual abuse
⛓️ His struggles with anger, pornography, alcohol, and drugs
🎓 His college journey and growing sense of emptiness
💰 The devastating financial crisis facing his family
🙏 The desperate prayer that changed everything
🚪 The unexpected arrival of two women with a message from God
✝️ Jonnathan's discovery of the God of the Bible
🌱 How purpose and passion began transforming his life
Jonnathan Truong's story is a reminder that sometimes the answer to our deepest prayer comes in a way we could never have predicted.
This is Part 1 of Jonnathan's story, so be sure to subscribe and follow the 4Ps Podcast for Part 2.
Connect with Jonnathan - https://buddhistsmormonsjesus.com/ 
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What if the key to business growth isn’t doing more—but building better systems? 🚀
In this episode of The 4Ps Podcast, Trunnis Goggins II sits down with PR expert and entrepreneur Shannon Procise for a powerful conversation about entrepreneurship, systems, SOPs, personality types, and building businesses that create freedom.
Shannon shares how her experience with franchises like McDonald’s shaped her approach to business systems and why documenting what you know is essential for growth. They also explore the importance of surrounding yourself with people whose strengths complement your own.
From Quick Starts and Builders to the power of stillness, community, and meaningful relationships, this episode offers practical insight for entrepreneurs ready to stop doing everything themselves and start building something sustainable.
🔥 In this episode:
Building systems that create business freedom
Why SOPs are essential for growth
Understanding personality types in business
Turning ideas into repeatable processes
The power of stillness and creativity
Building authentic business communities
Why relationships matter more than traditional networking
Entrepreneurship, purpose, and personal growth
If you're an entrepreneur, business owner, leader, or someone working toward greater freedom, this conversation is packed with ideas worth putting into action.
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📚Connect with Shannon - https://shannonprocise.com/ 

What happens when you stop waiting for someone else to apologize, change, or save you—and decide to reclaim your life?
On this powerful episode of the 4Ps Podcast, Trunnis Goggins II sits down with Kate Lovett, the woman behind the Unbroken movement, for an honest conversation about domestic violence, grief, financial loss, healing, resilience, and rebuilding your life.
Kate's journey inspired her to create Unbroken—a movement designed to help women move forward without allowing the pain of their past to define their future.
Kate shares how she learned that healing doesn't happen overnight. Sometimes progress is simply taking one small step at a time.
💔 She opens up about the generational impact of domestic violence and how trauma can affect relationships and families long after the original experience.
🔥 She also discusses one of the biggest turning points in her healing: letting go of the need for an apology.
Waiting for someone who hurt you to acknowledge what they did can keep you emotionally tied to the past. Kate explains how becoming "unapologetic" became part of her decision to stop carrying someone else's behavior, choices, or burdens into her future.
In This Episode:
💔 Kate's journey through domestic violence, grief and financial loss🔥 The story behind the Unbroken movement💪 Rebuilding your life after devastating circumstances🧠 The generational impact of trauma❤️ How trauma can affect relationships and families🚫 Why waiting for an apology can keep you stuck🌱 Learning to take recovery one small step at a time🙌 Knowing when to ask for help🎯 Why your current circumstances don't define your entire story👑 Reclaiming your identity and your future👕 The story behind Unbroken Athletica📓 Kate's upcoming Unbroken journal🎙️ The future of the Unbroken podcast
This episode is a reminder that your pain may be part of your story, but it doesn't have to become the definition of your story.
You don't have to heal on someone else's timeline.
You don't have to compare your journey to anyone else's.
And you don't have to wait for an apology to start moving forward.
Sometimes becoming UNBROKEN begins with one small decision to take the next step.
Connect with Kate: @unbroken.athletica
🎧 Watch the full episode and hear Kate Lovett's inspiring story of persistence, healing, and reclaiming her life.
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On this episode of the 4Ps Podcast, Trunnis Goggins II welcomes longtime friend and returning guest Phillip James McDonald for a powerful conversation about his new book, Stronger Than This, and the life-changing method behind it.
Phillip's Stronger Than This Method uses boxing as more than a physical workout. Through an eight-week program, participants develop greater awareness, body mechanics, emotional presence, confidence, and resilience under pressure.
Phillip explains how learning to stay relaxed and think clearly while under physical and emotional stress can transform the way people respond to challenges in everyday life.
🥊 The method is already being used in a local high school boxing program to teach young people valuable life skills. Phillip also shares inspiring stories of people who have benefited from the approach—including young people living with Tourette's and a woman in her 60s who used boxing as part of her journey away from alcohol addiction.
But this conversation goes far beyond boxing.
Phillip and Trunnis discuss the challenges facing today's youth, the importance of discipline and direction, and why communities need to take an active role in helping young people build better futures.
Phillip also reveals an inspiring commitment: 100% of his speaking fees will be donated to schools to help make these programs accessible to more students.
🥊 In This Episode:
🔥 The story behind Stronger Than This🥊 The three pillars of the Stronger Than This Method🧠 Training the mind and nervous system under pressure💪 Building confidence through physical training🎯 Developing awareness and emotional presence👊 Using boxing to teach life skills❤️ Stories of transformation through the program👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 The importance of family and community🏫 Why Phillip is investing in schools and young people💡 The importance of authenticity and being yourself🔥 Discipline, responsibility and personal direction🌎 Why communities can't wait for someone else to solve their problems
This episode is a powerful reminder that strength isn't just about what you can do physically—it's about how you respond when life gets difficult.
📚 Get Phillip James McDonald's book, Stronger Than This, and discover the principles behind the method.
Subscribe to the 4Ps Podcast for more conversations about purpose, planning, passion and persistence—and the people using those principles to create meaningful change.
Get the Book - https://veritaspublishinghouse.com/index.php/authors/phillip-james-mcdonald/ 
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What happens when a professional athlete's playing career comes to an end? For Matthew Hodgson, the answer wasn't stepping away from high performance—it was finding a new way to help others reach their potential.
On this episode of the 4Ps Podcast, Trunnis Goggins II sits down with Matthew Hodgson to explore his remarkable journey from starting basketball at just 14 years old to earning a college scholarship, playing professional basketball internationally, and eventually representing Australia on the national stage.
Matthew opens up about the challenges behind the success, including injuries, the pressure to perform, and the mental demands of competing at the highest levels.
But this conversation goes far beyond basketball.
Matthew shares deeply personal experiences involving his marriage, his children, the recent birth of his son Royce, and the heartbreaking loss of his stillborn son, Pierce. His story offers an honest look at resilience, gratitude, family, and continuing to move forward through life's most difficult moments.
Today, Matthew applies his background in psychology and organizational psychology to coaching high-performing athletes, teams, and executives. He explains how understanding yourself can become the foundation for better performance—and why the principles that make great athletes can also transform leaders and organizations.
🏀 In this episode, you'll discover:
✅ How Matthew went from a late start in basketball to playing professionally✅ His journey to the Australian national basketball team✅ How he overcame a debilitating knee injury✅ The mental challenges of performing at an elite level✅ His transition from professional athlete to coach✅ How psychology influences his coaching philosophy✅ Lessons learned from working with elite athletes and executives✅ The importance of self-awareness in high performance✅ Matthew's perspective on family, loss, gratitude, and resilience✅ Why Michael Jordan remains his choice for the greatest basketball player of all time
This is a conversation about what happens after the scoreboard stops—and how the lessons learned through sport can become the foundation for an even greater purpose.
🎧 Watch the full episode and discover Matthew Hodgson's journey from professional basketball to helping others perform at their best.
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Could the office of the Vice President of the United States be reimagined to better serve the American people?
In this thought-provoking episode of the 4Ps Podcast, host Trunnis Goggins II sits down with Mike ter Maat, who discusses his unique campaign to seek the nomination for Vice President and shares his ideas for making the office more accountable, independent, and responsive within the constitutional system.
The conversation explores the evolution of the vice presidency, the history behind how vice presidents have been selected, and the potential benefits and challenges of changing the current process. Mike also discusses leadership, constitutional responsibility, transparency, and why encouraging thoughtful civic engagement matters.
Along the way, Trunnis reflects on American history, including the legacy of President James Garfield, and examines how the principles of Purpose, Planning, Passion, and Persistence can apply not only to personal growth but also to public service and leadership.
Whether you're interested in leadership, American history, constitutional ideas, or thoughtful discussions about government, this episode offers an engaging conversation designed to encourage critical thinking.
👉 In this episode you'll discover:
✅ The history of selecting U.S. vice presidents✅ Why Mike ter Maat believes the current system could be improved✅ The constitutional role of the Vice President✅ Leadership lessons from American history✅ Why independent thinking matters in public service✅ How the 4Ps framework applies to leadership and civic responsibility
Connect with Mike: https://miketermaat.com/ 
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🚨 WARNING: This episode discusses alleged forced organ harvesting, human rights abuses, and crimes against prisoners of conscience. Viewer discretion is advised.
In this eye-opening episode of the 4Ps Podcast, host Trunnis Goggins II welcomes Jan Jekielek, senior investigative journalist with The Epoch Times and author of Killed to Order.
Together, they explore the allegations of forced organ harvesting in China, the evidence presented in Jan's investigative work, and why this issue has become a growing concern among human rights advocates, medical ethicists, and lawmakers around the world.
Jan discusses the historical background, the alleged targeting of prisoners of conscience, ethical questions surrounding organ transplantation, and the importance of transparency and accountability in global healthcare.
This episode is designed to encourage viewers to examine the evidence, learn about the issue, and engage in informed discussion about one of the most controversial human rights topics of our time.
In this episode, you'll discover:
📖 The story behind Killed to Order
🌍 The allegations surrounding forced organ harvesting in China
⚖️ Ethical concerns surrounding organ transplantation
🧬 How transplant systems differ around the world
📰 The investigative research behind the book
🏛️ Legislative efforts aimed at addressing forced organ harvesting
🧠 Why awareness and informed discussion matter
🤝 The importance of protecting human dignity and human rights
Whether you're interested in human rights, investigative journalism, international affairs, ethics, or public policy, this conversation provides a thought-provoking look at an issue that continues to generate international concern.
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Get the Book: https://a.co/d/08FoFvVA